Craig Miller  Mt. Vernon, WA


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| 03/02/2008 11:34 PM |
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I've been looking into different fridges and was wondering what people thought of the new Engel dual zone?
I'm also curious as to what people would recommend in general. 45qt? 45qt w/ the topper? Dual zone? Other?
I'm limited on price, but would love to hear what you guys think is the best option of the Engel/ARB line.
Craig
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Davis M  Portland, OR

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| 03/03/2008 4:44 PM |
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| My 45qt ARB has worked great for everything from a day trip to a week for two people. If the trip went over a week or for a larger group, I'd expect I'd need to restock once along the way and/or do a much better job of pre-departure organization with menu planning. Admittedly, I'm pretty lazy about pre-prepping food and I can see where that might be needed on an extenided outing Having local service and parts (yes, they actually stock spares!) is a nice perk for the ARB and I found pricing a bit more "flexible" than the Engle. I've never wanted for more space, but I'd be quick to try the two-zone extender if it ever became an issue. The larger 60 qt fridge seems huge to me and it's hard to make it smaller for weekend trips. One great addition for any fridge is a set of top baskets - the two-zone baskets fit the ARB and Engles (perhaps, others?) and are a "must have item" in my opinion as they make fridge organization and access a breeze. |
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Peter Carey  Clinton, WA


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| 03/03/2008 5:37 PM |
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A 45 works fine for us. We had something smaller than those baskets (as pictured in the Overland Journal Gear Guide) and it does help. we'll be getting a set of those baskets as well. I was thinking of the two zone but I'm not sure if it'll fit in the truck any better. I think we're just better off regulating our food. It's more of a luxury and makes your meal planning more lax, much like having more space in your truck (you end up packing more stuff).
Start with a 45 and see if you need more space. |
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Craig Miller  Mt. Vernon, WA


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Peter Carey  Clinton, WA


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| 03/03/2008 10:27 PM |
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| After using it for a while you'lll find the things you use it for most are cheese and beer. |
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Craig Miller  Mt. Vernon, WA


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Davis M  Portland, OR

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| 03/04/2008 9:25 AM |
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| BTW, while OJ's 2008 Gear Guide suggested the TwoZone Suspended Basked Set was "just a few millimeters too wide to fit the inside of the Engel", I have not found this to be the case with the ARB. Perhaps the specs (or, more likely QC) have changed on the baskets since I purchased them a year ago? |
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Craig Miller  Mt. Vernon, WA


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| 03/14/2008 12:53 AM |
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Oops I said the wrong thing, and Davis picked up on it. I did mean to ask about the TwoZone Refridgerator Compartment... e.g. http://www.sierraexpeditions.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=172
After reading Michael Ks post about them last year, and seeing it again in Overland Journal this month I was thinking that maybe an Engel 35 with the twozone would be ideal. The TwoZone on a 45 seems a bit tall if the TwoZone is on the top. It's an additional $300 over the regular fridge though.
I'll go with an Engel/ARB 45 now and then add the TwoZone later if I find that I need more room for particularly long trips (unlikely).
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Davis M  Portland, OR

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| 03/14/2008 10:17 AM |
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| craig, make sure to budget for a set of the baskets - they really make organization a snap. worth every penny. |
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Craig Miller  Mt. Vernon, WA


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Dale Avery  Spokane, WA


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| 03/14/2008 7:18 PM |
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A couple quick comments, then a question or two. First, the Engel/ARB frig is useful year round. it is an AC/DC unit. I picked one up last summer and was only able to use it camping one or two times. But, since it's arrival, it has never been stored. It was plugged into the AC mains near my back door all late summer and fall. Every time I went outside on the deck or worked in the yard, I could quickly get a cold bottle of water, beer, etc. I went with the ARB because it has a built-in thermometer. Yes, it's in celsius, but let's get real here; 0 deg C is freezing. What's so hard about that? I keep it set just above freezing cuz I love my beer COLD. This past winter and spring the frig has been sitting in my office keeping the cool ones coming. I went with the Engel insulating jacket because it was a bit less expensive and works just as well. How many other pieces of your off-roading/expedition gear can be this multipurpose?
OJ also discussed the locking base unit for the frig. There are actually two different types; one that truly locks the frig in place, and a second one that is a sliding unit that locks. I have both. The first for my large Action Packer tool/parts bin, and the slider for the frig.
Craig, spend an extra couple bucks and get the locking hinge. It pays for itself the first time it keep the danged cover in place! and thanks for the website listed in your last post. I want to order a set of those baskets for this summer, but didn't know where to find them. Davis, if you read this, are you sure that they fit the 45 O.K.? I also read the OJ and was concerned when the author stated they are too tight and have a tendency to pop out! |
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Davis M  Portland, OR

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| 03/15/2008 2:13 PM |
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Dale, et al...I stand (er, sit) corrected. Your question led me to my garage to physically check them and as it turns out, the baskets do indeed sit up a bit in my ARB fridge. To what degree this occurs, does depend on where you locate the basket (if using one) or if using two. And, by a "bit", I mean the basket(s) sit about an 1/8 of an inch above the primary inner basket of the fridge - worse case. Using two baskets at the same time definately creates the situation described in OJ. I suspect removing the inner basket from the fridge itself would eliminate this issue, but I wouldn't do as it, too, serves a purpose.
That said, I've only used one basket at a time (usually the larger one) thus far as there's always a bottle of wine and/or a quart of milk that needs to stand upright; the opening also allows quick access to the beer below. At any rate, when closed up [whether using one or both baskets] the lid just contacts the basket(s) enough so they are lightly pushed down when latched. At best it's a minor issue and most importantly, when latched, the seal is complete all the way around. I have never noticed the fridge running more than it did before I got the baskets and things stay as cold as ever. Hope this was a more useful assessment than my previous fuzzy memory one. Would I buy them again? In a hearbeat.
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Dale Avery  Spokane, WA


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| 03/16/2008 7:35 PM |
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Davis,
thanks for the clarification. I'll be ordering a set soon!
Dale WU7X |
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Peter Carey  Clinton, WA


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| 03/16/2008 10:47 PM |
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| Davis, thanks for the info and picture. it made the decision easy for Kim. |
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Todd Eliason  Nights who say Ni, in Sherwood


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| 03/17/2008 7:24 AM |
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| nice looking chair Peter! |
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Isaac Fain  Downtown


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| 03/17/2008 11:01 AM |
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nice heineken
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I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you over the noise of how awesome I am. |
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Todd Eliason  Nights who say Ni, in Sherwood


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| 03/17/2008 11:08 AM |
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LMAO
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Tony Sims  Beaverton, Oregon


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| 03/17/2008 11:15 AM |
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Someone should get Dale a chair. He's been drinking a lot of beer...  |
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Tony '92 County "Thirsty"
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Dan Cronin  Bothell, WA


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| 03/17/2008 11:35 AM |
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| I like the 60 too, but will settle for the 45, just because of my "short-Bus" syndrome. |
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Peter Carey  Clinton, WA


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| 03/17/2008 11:41 AM |
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If your chair isn't cool enough to match mine and Todd's, paaahhhllleeeasssee don't post it.  And....Engle Fridge. just to keep this on topic |
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